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Date: Tue. Oct. 12 2010 11:17 AM ET

The first round of voting has finished up at United Nations General Assembly as Canada waits to learn if it will earn one of two coveted seats on the Security Council.

The secret ballot, which requires a two-thirds majority for an outright win, will determine if Canada can land one of two non-permanent seats available to pro-Western nations

Germany and Portugal are vying for the same opportunity, though Canada has made a strong push for membership. Successful applicants will have to win support in the vote from the 192 members of the United Nations General Assembly.

Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said Tuesday he's confident Canada will rejoin the council.

He said Canada's campaign has "gone well."

Canada is believed to be in a good position because it is facing two European competitors.

"There is concern that the Council would be too European-weighed if both Germany and Portugal were to prevail," Michelle Fanzo of the World Policy Institute told CTV News Channel Tuesday.

Fanzo said those two countries are running on very different platforms.

"Germany is a tough (competitor) to be up against . . . they have very strong and historic overseas development and aid activities and they are Europe's number one economic power," she said. "Portugal is really running on a platform of ‘Don't forget about the small nations.'"

If successful in its bid for membership, Canada will start a two-year term on the Security Council in January. It would be the seventh time that Canada has served since 1948.

Paul Heinbecker, a former Canadian ambassador to the UN, said the vote may be close but he believes the odds are in Canada's favour for Tuesday's vote.

"I'd be betting on Canada, but I'm not sure I'd put a lot of money on it," Heinbecker told CTV's Canada AM during an interview from Ottawa.

Heinbecker said that Canada has a positive, long-term legacy at the UN, which bodes well for the outcome of Tuesday's vote. However, some of the policy decisions made by Ottawa in recent years may have alienated voters who will help determine whether Canada gets the seat it desires.

Heinbecker said Canada is doing far less peacekeeping work than it used to, it has shifted the focus of its aid policy towards countries in Latin America at the expense of those in Africa, and the Canadian government is considered pro-Israel.

While Canada has likely secured vote commitments from other members, Heinbecker said that a secret ballot means that the outcome of the vote is somewhat unpredictable.

"Whether people will honour those commitments when the time comes remains to be seen," he said.

There are 15 members of the Security Council in total.

Five nations have permanent membership: China, France, the Russian Federation, the United States and the United Kingdom.

The remaining 10 seats are non-permanent and are assigned to nations for two-year terms.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Stave
said

Normally Canada would be a shoe in for the UN seat, but with our regressive conservatives in power Portugal is a much better choice. The Harper regime has nothing to offer anyone.


JP
said

I hope we do not get it - Harper has made us look like fools.I am hoping for Germany Once Harper is gone after the next election we would have a better chance


paulb
said

Since we lost our seat in 2002 that would suggest our dimished army made us look stupid even considering it which the Fiberals didn't really want then.People arn't as dumb as they think you may be.


BMACK
said

“Normally Canada would be a shoe in for the UN seat, but with our regressive conservatives in power Portugal is a much better choice. The Harper regime has nothing to offer anyone.”Even though it defies truth and logic this is the kind of remark we hear from the left because they are incapable of putting their country ahead of partisan politics. This line was started by their leader Iffy who in doing so showed the country that neither he nor his party are fit to govern. Of course in doing so he gave enormous credibility to Portugal’s previously weak case against Canada and they have used his comments to great effect at UN. If Portugal wins Iffy and the Liberals deserve most of the credit. The credit for fact that he will not pay any sort of political price at home for his disloyalty goes directly to our so called MSM for not reporting it.


paulfrottawa
said

We lost our seat in 2002 Why?How can you blame that on Harper when he just made us look like willing partners for the seat he wants?


Anne
said

Should Portugal get the seat over Canada, then the UN really has no credibility.


Ian Ottawa
said

This whole organization is a waste of time and corrupt to the core. Canada as a Peace Keeper is a falsehood and Canada's military is one of the best (if not the best) in the world.Peace keeping is a cop out for tree huggers and cowards who are afraid or unwilling to fight for the rights of themselves and others.CAnadian civilians are fat cats that have been de-clawed and without teeth.We don't need the UN or the Geneva Convention. We need Balls to get an ugly job done in a necessary way.


Will
said

Steve, While your liberal party might choose to see the Harper conservatives as regressive, many Canadians see them as looking out for the national interests of Canada rather than playing the game for the sake of power. (Chretien & Trudeau for example) The Liberal legacy has proven to be flawed and run by special interests rather than looking to the nation as a whole. As for the peacekeeping myth, it was always nothing more than a myth where the liberals (again trudeau et al) were prepared to spend lives on appearances rather than anything substantive. I'll go with the consrvative vision over that nonsense coming from the liberals any time, I survived your bunch and prefer a future for this country as a whole rather than a balkanized country where the liberals play one region off another simply to hold power at any cost.


Fiscally Left
said

With our current government, Portugal has much more to offer than Canada. Portugal is more socially advanced than many countries. In 2001 Portugal decriminalized all drugs, it has work so well no one has asked for drugs to be made illegal since decriminalization. Since decriminalization drugs use has gone down, drug related deaths have decreased & the number of people seeking treatment has doubled. It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does. The US already has a seat on the UN counsel, Harper is just a lapdog for US & has nothing to add except regressive polices that have failed in the past. Harper gave away millions of our tax dollars to other countries to try to buy this seat, but Harper has nothing to offer besides our tax dollars. Harper is an embarrassment to Canada.


Cliff
said

What of substance is gained from a seat on the Security council? It all seems posturing for social place to me! Why should we sacrifice national interest to soothe the feelings of a bunch of overpaid and underworked diplomats from all the nations that want us to guve them foreign aid?


Tom
said

Canada deserves to be there, the PM has done a good job and we need to stand behind him instead of bashing him. No matter who is PM the situation would be no different. Chretian made us look like a fool on the world stage and Martin was no better. Go Canada


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Good luck, Canada. (You know just how petty, bitter, and small-minded the Opposition and its supporters are when they see a "victory" as the failure of their own country to gain a seat at an important international table. What partisan children. Evidently, some people need political therapeutic treatment, as their self-induced "Anti-Harper Syndrome" has completely destroyed their intellect and rational judgment. Sad, and pathetic.)


Ron
said

I don't think the U.N. wants someone who never answers to the people and has sunk their country into ruins; we went from $50 billion above to $50 billion in debt which equals $100 billion "blown" ! Please don't elect Harper.


BMACK
said

“Normally Canada would be a shoe in for the UN seat, but with our regressive conservatives in power Portugal is a much better choice. The Harper regime has nothing to offer anyone” Even though it defies truth and logic this is the kind of remark we hear from the left because they are incapable of putting their country ahead of partisan politics. This line was started by their leader Iffy who in doing so showed the country that neither he nor his party are fit to govern. Of course in doing so he gave enormous credibility to Portugal’s previously weak case against Canada and they have used his comments to great effect at the UN. If Portugal wins, Iffy and the Liberals deserve most of the credit. The credit for the fact that he will not pay any sort of political price at home for his disloyalty goes directly to our so called MSM for not reporting it and just another example of how they have so completely failed the public by abandoning their journalistic ethics and becoming a political player.


CMQ
said

Our current government has hardly made us look like fools on the world stage. Despite some of the local gaffes Canada has stood strong on the international front. It is time to put political agendas aside locally and see that Canda can and does play an important role on the world stage and has been involved for years in making a difference. Iggy, when you consider if our current government has earned the right, take a step back, it is you who have not but Canada has from legacy alone. Iggy you are making a fool of yourself because you will jump on anything, even ruining our reputation abroad to get what you want, elected. That, I hope never happens! Maybe grow up a little as a politician and learn when it is important to stand up and oppose and when to stand up and support instead of reacting to everything or avoiding being present for a vote!!!!


Ken Durham
said

Steve and fellow whiners: the liberals are not worthy of a minority government. The 'three blind mice' alliance are not worthy of governing. Question for you: What do you get when you cross a separatist with a bleeding heart liberal with a non-entity democrat? ........Take your time.............that's right, now you're getting it.........yes, you are correct! The correct answer is behind door number 3! Which is clearly - Nothing.


Kelly
said

I think the politicians need to grow up and stop bickering like kids on a playground. The Bloc don't care about the rest of Canada, all they are concerned about is Quebec. Why are they getting their noses out of joint? If Ignatieff is not going to support Canada, then why is he even involved in politics to begin with? We need politicians who are going to support Canada whethor they feel we've "earned" it or not. The Liberals are the ones who screwed us over with the military when Trudeau was is power. Harper is trying to make us more than just "peacekeepers". Good for him. It's time for everyone else to stop taking Canada for granted, and it's time that we stop cleaning up other countries messes.


Cam
said

Let's cut to the chase here. There are already two Anglo-Saxon countries represented as permanent members of the council. Given that these countries have been infected with the post-9/11 lurch towards mean-spirited neoconservatism, it would be a disaster to add a third, even temporarily. The UN does indeed have some huge flaws, but are they as bad as those of the Hateful Harpies currently in charge in Canada. Harper hasn't done one thing positive for Canada so he has nothing to offer the world. On the other hand Canadians would applaud an Ignatieff led seat with the UN.


Bryn
said

Ron, you need to check your facts. The $50B surplus you're talking about was a transfer from the EI surplus that the Liberals raided to make it look like they were doing a good job. Keep in mind that those were "good" times, not recessionary times.We could surely have used that $50B in EI once the worldwide economic meltdown hit, couldn't we Ron?


Tod
said

Likely response: "Aren't you the guys who went to Tim Horton's instead of UN last year?


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

The political midgets (mostly Liberal supporters) who, with idiotically unpatriotic abandon, foolishly flog the notion that Canada, their own country, is the least "deserving" of the candidate-nations for a U.N Security Council seat are, of course, the very same whiney partisans who regularly complain about PM Harper and his Conservatives allegedly being "dividers" of our country. Really? So, right now, as you cross your crooked little fingers that Canada gets a thumbs down, you're thinking and acting like a "uniter" and putting Canada's best interests ahead of your own goofy Liberal-inspired partisanship? Sure. Grow up. (Just a tad lower, and you'll be crawling.)


James (AB)
said

Why dont all you Liberal nay-sayers do something positive to support Canada on the world stag instead of continually undermining the governments efforts to bolster it. Its just more proof you liberal clowns have no interest in this country rather just yourselves and what you can rape this country for. There should be law to have you all live in Queerbec so you can all be together with your treasonist seperatist buddies already living there.


Bob,Calgary
said

Many of the Canadians blogging here should be ashamed of themselves for criticizing any selection of Canada for the seat just because of their intense hatred of Stephen Harper. While I personally detest the United Nations because it is controlled by despots and corrupt governments I would still applaud the selection of my country to the post even if the government were Liberal or NDP, One wonders what kind of people populate this great country when one reads the vitriol and hatred coming from these pages. Shame,Canadians shame.


Dave S
said

Canada should be a permenent member after all we have done around the world, i say if we do not get this seat than the UN can go screw themselves and don't ask Canada for any help in the future.
They have out lived there usefulness anyway


Jim in Ontario
said

"I hope we do not get it - Harper has made us look like fools.I am hoping for Germany Once Harper is gone after the next election we would have a better chance"This is the same "sour grapes" type comment Ignatieff said a couple weeks ago. We are supposed to be Canadians first, and winning the vote is in Canada's interests.


Allan - Angus, Ont
said

@Ian Ottawa: Bang on!! As a former peacekeeper (once with UN, twice under NATO), I agree with you completely. I despise the peacekeeper myth, as it implies that the UN is all knowing. I preferred peacekeeping under NATO (walk loudly and carry a big stick (plus it helps to have the big boys: US, UK, and the others that have a set of stones, such as Australia, along for the ride)) to the modern UN mode of having to invoke "Stop!!! Or I will say Stop!!! again..." and watching as the belligerents, who respect power, do whatever they please, as they know that the UN will do nothing. Look at the rates of PTSD from (UN) peacekeeping missions, from soldiers feeling impotent to act in the face of bold aggression, due to the dithering UN-masters, sipping cocktails in NYC, not answering the phone on evenings or weekends, while people were slaughtered. How is that reality for you, tree-huggers and assorted lotus-eaters??? Ban UN peacekeeping, or at least ensure that the soldiers can react with force when needed. Otherwise, the huggy-kissy types can suit up and take the place of soldiers, and then see how they make out with singing "Kumbaya" and "Give peace a chance!!". About as long as it takes to hit the ground after an AK47 rifle-butt to the forehead occurs.... Make sure you have a harassment adviser on retainer....


Allan Eizinas
said

So the day before the vote, Harper’s mouthpiece reaffirms and increases Canada’s commitment to Israeli politics thereby alienating about 130 pro-Arab countries. These guys just don’t want Canada to have that seat.


OBSSERVERMAN
said

CANADA IS A CLEAR CHOICESome of the posters seem to view the UN Security Council with the lens of Canadian politics. For the partisan crowd's information, it is a different world out there.The Non-Aligned bloc and the African Union countries are likely to view Portugal as a former colonial power that showed contempt for and total disregard to the welfare of its colonies. Mozambique, former Portuguese colony, had to be admitted to the British Commonwealth, because it doesn't want anything to do with Portugal.Canada has a brighter record than most when it comes to human rights, world peace, and security.


Renaldo
said

Canada is try to fight a war that has not anything to do with Canadian. We are look at from the world as peace makers and now this Harper government wants us to be country that loves world. I tell you this if we take the step that the USA has done to isolate themselves from the world, nothing can help your image. Stop world create peace. Being apart of a council that doesn't better our society should not be the government top on his list. Work on growing our image by becoming the peacemakers that we all have in our heart.


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